Telegram Privacy Policy Change: They’ll Share IP Addresses and Phone Numbers If Asked by Authorities

Octavio Rivera
Daily Stormer
August 31, 2018

*but not secure from Government peepers.

Telegram recently updated its Privacy Policy with some interesting additions, such as:

If Telegram receives a court order that confirms you’re a terror suspect, we may disclose your IP address and phone number to the relevant authorities. So far, this has never happened. When it does, we will include it in a semiannual transparency report published at:

ZD Net:

In a Telegram post on Tuesday — the service provides public-facing channels as well as private messaging features — founder Pavel Durov said the policy has been revised to belatedly comply with Europe’s new General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), and Telegram was “reserving the right” to comply with court orders.

“Regardless of whether we ever use this right, the measure should make Telegram less attractive for those who are engaged in sending out terrorist propaganda here,” he noted.

Terror suspect.



It’s evident that the policy update is a move to save face in the eventual doxing of conservatives, alt-righters, neon-nazis, and anyone who disagrees with Momma Merkel.

There’s a difference between private and anonymous. Telegram’s business model is private chats, not anonymity, since you basically dox yourself through your phone number and IP in order to access the service. The problem with this model is that they, as a company, hold certain data about your activity, about the origin of the interactions, and about the content, that can serve to easily identify you.

Sure, they’ve been refusing to share that kind of thing so far, but they already started to bend the knee and accepted to share IPs and phone numbers. How long until they agree to share the rest of the data they have on you?

They do have plenty.

How much data they really keep about you is something you’d have to take their word for in order to answer, but as a rule of thumb, you’d be better off with Free and Open Source Software alternatives such as Signal which were audited and have their source code out in the open, where people can check for themselves how data is handled and how much is kept.

Let’s take a look at an article from a couple of years ago talking about some of Telegram’s problems.


One major problem Telegram has is that it doesn’t encrypt chats by default, something the FBI has advocated for. “There are many Telegram users who think they are communicating in an encrypted way, when they’re not because they don’t realize that they have to turn on an additional setting,”

I haven’t used Telegram lately so I don’t know if they’ve changed that, but the fact they had it set up like that at least back then, it’s already a big red flag.

There’s no reason to not encrypt your messages by default, especially as an application that brands itself one that makes security a high priority. Contrary to the opinions of almost every encryption and security expert, Telegram’s FAQ touts itself as more secure as WhatsApp. But in reality, WhatsApp uses the most highly praised encryption protocol on the market and encrypts every text message and call by default.

Yeah, look.

You can’t trust WhatsApp. Not because of its encryption protocol or whatever tech they use, but because of who owns it [Editor’s Note: Also, the encryption protocol is shit, and the backups which they try to force you to do are not encrypted at all. -AA].

That’s another thing, who owns the stuff you use. No, you don’t really own the software you use, in most cases.

It comes down to who you choose to trust.

What’s their business model?

How do they make money?

There’s kind of an old meme that usually rustles some gears, that goes something like: if you’re not paying for the product, you are the product.

It’s especially accurate regarding Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram, and the rest of the Zuckerberg family. More so with Google.

They make money out of your data and gather as many details as they can.

Can you trust them when they tell you “lol okay we won’t share your data we promise” if their business model is literally sharing your data?

I’m not saying this is the case with Telegram, but the sole fact that they have data about you puts you at risks. There’s precedent about government forcing private companies to handle out user data, so why give them your data in the first place if there are better alternatives?

Signal is one of those alternatives.

In fact, WhatsApp’s encryption is modeled after Signal’s.

“They use the MTproto protocol which is effectively homegrown and I’ve seen no proper proofs of its security,” Alan Woodward, professor at the University of Surrey told Gizmodo. Woodward criticized Telegram for their lack of transparency regarding their home cooked encryption protocol. “At present we don’t know enough to know if it’s secure or insecure. That’s the trouble with security by obscurity. It’s usual for cryptographers to reveal the algorithms completely, but here we are in the dark. Unless you have considerable experience, you shouldn’t write your own crypto. No one really understands why they did that.

I’m sure they had a noble reason.

The app also leaks metadata “like a champion,” Woodward said. Earlier this year a security researcher discovered that an attacker could figure out when a user was online and offline, which could help determine who you are talking to and when you use the app.

Yeah… you get the idea. Start by ditching Telegram, at least for your badgoying.

But don’t stop there. Read this article by Best VPN.

Do you really want to give away your data to Jews? Let them know what you read, what sites you visit, what your interests are, what you like to do for fun, who your relationships are, so they can more efficiently engineer better good-goys?

If you’re on Windows, get Shut Up Ten at the very least. Use a VPN, or Tor, or both.

There’s nothing cool about letting peeping Jews into your personal space.

Editor’s Note: 

Sorry about telling people to use Telegram. 

Actually, I’m not sorry. This isn’t my fault. This company came out and said they were open source, privacy alternative, presented data to that effect – they were even banned in several countries for their encryption procedure which was allegedly being used by drug dealers and terrorists – then just switched up the game. That isn’t my fault. 

This is an ongoing thing, I know. 

Telegram is still not as bad as something like Discord, which is absolutely absurd, in that they not only admit to selling chat data but also appear to be allowing the buyers of said data (SPLC and their antifa goons) to access chats in real time. But Telegram is among those where if you are sued for wrongthink, or prosecuted in a country where wrongthink is criminal, the data on it could end up in a courtroom. 

Please note that if you’re blocking your IP when accessing and using a burner phone, you’re probably relatively safe. But “relative” here is only in relation to the other options. 

Using it for texting skanks or your IRL bros is fine. But don’t organize politically on it. Use signal or something else which stores no data and is completely open source. 


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