February 21, 2020
What if she didn’t consent to consent though?
Women weren’t destroying society fast enough with just divorce and the pill, so the overlords gave them a new tool to help in their task.
The weapon of destruction known as consent can be boiled down to “I sucked his dick but I didn’t really mean to.”
Some attorneys say written and recorded sexual consent can be the only way for people to defend themselves against accusations of rape. Advocates say that as a standard, it falls woefully short.
Two Ohio State University football players, Amir Riep, 21, and Jahsen Wint, 21, were arrested last week after being accused of kidnapping and raping a 19-year-old woman. The next day, head coach Ryan Day announced he dismissed the two from the team.
Columbus police said in an affidavit that Riep told the victim to say the encounter was consensual on a video recording. That recording was recovered, police said.
The idea of seeking “proof” of consent concerns sexual violence researchers and prevention advocates.
You have to believe women.
Seeking proof of whether something that women say happened actually happened or not is a sign of not believing women, and that’s a big no-no.
Brad Koffel, a Columbus criminal defense attorney in private practice for more than 25 years and managing partner of Koffel Brininger Nesbitt, advises his clients to obtain written consent for sexual acts, even if it’s just a text message, or any sort of audio or video recording indicating consent.
“If they don’t,” he said, “in this climate, then they’re going to suffer some consequences.”
This month, an attorney defending Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein in his trial on rape and sexual assault charges made similar suggestions.
“If I was a man in today’s world, before I was engaging in sexual behavior with any woman today, I would ask them to sign a consent form,” Donna Rotunno said on The Daily, a New York Times podcast.
Columbus criminal defense attorney Dan Sabol of Sabol Mallory said he would feel concerned if a client obtained written or recorded consent from a sexual partner.
“That’d be a red flag,” he said. “It might look as though they’re trying to cover their tracks.”
Let’s go ahead and apply that reasoning to every form of written contract too.
Or is this somehow a special case because women and their vaginas are special?
Proof of consent might help someone who is falsely accused, Sabol said, but if there is compelling evidence that a sexual act was not consensual, the documentation of consent from a partner could increase the appearance of guilt in a suspect.
“Just because someone says it’s consensual on video doesn’t make it so,” he said.
Yeah, what actually makes it so is the woman’s word.
Women are the absolute authority on all things vagina here in the West.
Sexual assault prevention advocates said they see more instances of young people advised to get proof of consent, but formal documentation in writing or video doesn’t capture how consent really works.
“It should be taken as a red flag that a person would have enough doubts about whether or not consent was established to … request this type of agreement before or after an encounter,” said Laura Palumbo, communication director for the National Sexual Violence Resource Center. “Because in reality, one of the most important things for people to know about consent is that if you have any doubts … then the interaction should not move forward with your partner.”
The most important thing to know about consent is that women determine whether it existed or not.
Emily Gemar, campus advocacy coordinator for OhioHealth’s Sexual Assault Response Network of Central Ohio, said consent can legally be revoked at any time, so written or recorded documentation is in no way representative of an entire sexual encounter.
“If someone consents on a recording one time, it doesn’t simply (mean) blanket consent for everything after that,” she said.
You can be in the middle of the sexual act and she can just whisper “I hereby remove my consent” to herself and just like that, you become a rapist because there’s no way you can teleport yourself out of her sight fast enough.
Gemar said she uses the “FRIES” model to outline the requirements of consent: freely given, reversible, informed, enthusiastic, specific.
“A good consensual act or series of events should be active communication the whole time and checking in with their partner,” she said. “They should consent and enthusiastically agree the whole time.”
Isn’t enthusiasm the same thing as enjoyment?
Yes, that is actually the exact definition.
So the goal is to ensure that she maintains enjoyment of the sex the entire time, because if at any point she doesn’t enjoy it, then it’s rape. Of course, she can lie about enjoying it, or look like she’s enjoying it when she’s not. And there is also the fact that a man simply performing poorly is now defined as rape. Unless she has an intense and eager enjoyment of a poor performance. But if she is the type of girl who has an intense and eager enjoyment of a poor performance, then she likely would not have an intense an eager enjoyment of a good performance, meaning for her, a good performance would be rape.
When they talk about consent being reversible, do they give any kind of timeframe in which a man can stop the activity once he’s been notified that consent has been reversed or removed?
If women suddenly stop enthusiastically agreeing even for a moment, does that mean that consent was broken, and you can now be sent to prison for years?
There’s too many questions to ask, but all of them have the same answer.
The answer is “it depends on how that made her feel.”
It’s almost like this is a voodoo system designed to make men completely subservient to women.